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tamaraPosted by Tamara O.

We are now the proud owners of a harp, crafted right here in Chicago by harp makers at the historic Lyon & Healy. Yes, you read that correctly, a harp. I can hardly believe if myself as I walk into the house every night greeted by harp music.

My free-thinker 7-year-old has been begging for a harp for the past 13 months and thanks to the Irish Music School of Chicago and harpist Marguerite Lynn Williams, she has finally started taking lessons. It struck us as an odd request from such a young child, but then again, Zoe has never followed the usual path.

As we were talking about this beautiful instrument in the office this week, the question came up: When should parents indulge odd requests from their children?

Good question. I don't know that I have a good answer since I might indulge my kids more than I should.

In my home, we have always encouraged the kids' interests, whether it be Irish dance, other more traditional sports or in my son's case for six months last year, bleaching his hair. But when it came to the harp, the instrument was certainly outside our knowledge base and carried a huge cost. But Zoe was hooked the first time she touched one and never let us forget it.

Since I didn't have a good answer to the indulgence question, I decided to turn to a trusted expert who always has great advice, Dr. Aaron Cooper of The Family Institute at Northwestern University.

In response to my query, he writes:

"One of the great opportunities of childhood is being able to discover natural talents, strengths and interests. Such discoveries can often translate into lifelong loves-vocations and avocations that enhance a sense of life worth living. Whenever possible, and without putting the family at undue financial (or other) hardship, parents should expose kids to the experiences they ask about. Harp? Let's rent one for a while, take some lessons and see how it goes. Basketball? Let's see if the park district offers an after-school team. Fencing? Sounds nice, but since the only fencing club is 90 minutes away, I'm not prepared to spend that much of my time chauffeuring back and forth.

"It's a different judgment call when kids are simply asking to try the latest trend-nose piercings or tattoos, for instance-or something that can leave Mom or Dad cleaning up the mess-adopting a pet that the children can't be bothered to take care of. We have to rely on our best judgment, sometimes on our intuition; sometimes consulting with a trusted friend can help us navigate our way.

"But we needn't be afraid to say 'no.' Saying 'no' is part of the child-rearing landscape, and it rarely does our kids harm. We tend to err on the side of overdoing nowadays, twisting ourselves into a pretzel to give kids what they want. Like millions of parents, many of us have embraced the misguided notion that it's our job to keep kids happy.

"For our sons and daughters, it's a little bit of adversity when we say 'no,' and that's a good thing! Plenty of practice facing adversity is the way our kids develop resilience. Ultimately, that's more important than wearing a tattoo."

In checking with experts, I asked my absolute favorite Parent Coach, Cathy Cassani Adams, to weigh in on the question of when should parents indulge odd requests from their children? When should they just say no?

She writes: When children ask for something (especially if it seems like an odd request) it necessitates a conversation. Let go of judgment or trying to talk them out of it, give them an opportunity to share what they are thinking and feeling. If you listen to them, they will have more reason to listen to you.

A few of her great tips for dealing with requests:

1. Ask questions. Take time to sit down and ask some questions. Let them tell you about their interest. Make eye contact and let them know that you are really listening.

2. Decide what is appropriate for your child. Every child is different so not all decisions can be made based on their age. The maturity level of all 10 year olds is not the same. Process through the request-if your son wants a dog, is he ready to take responsibility for a pet? If your daughter wants her ears pierced, is she able to clean her ears everyday so they don't get infected?

3. Talk about responsibility. Talk to them about the reality of their request. What are the expectations once a pet is brought into the home? If you decide to buy the instrument, when and where will she practice? Will she commit to playing it for at least 6 months (a year?). Establish parameters and expectations up front.

4. Be creative. If you decide that your child is not ready to take care of a dog on a daily basis, suggest that he dog sit for a friend or walk a neighbor's dog (with your supervision). You can go to the library and check out books about dogs or have your child talk to other dog owners. Maybe it's not time to buy the instrument, but you can visit a studio or music store so your child can try out the instrument. Maybe you can take a class where the instrument is supplied or rent the instrument for the weekend.

5. Make a decision. If the request is out of the question, let your children know in a respectful way. It is hard to say no, but disappointment is a real part of life. Acknowledge their feelings and allow them to be upset. They have a right to process your decision. If the request can be fulfilled when the child is older, let him know that you will have the discussion again in a year or two. If you think your child is ready, talk to her about why you think she is ready and discuss expectations.

When children make requests they are sharing an interest, she says. You may or may not decide to fulfill the request, but either way you can acknowledge their curiosity. This is an opportunity to listen to your children and show them that you respect what they have to say-it will deepen your communication and your relationship.

Cassani Adams, LCSW, CPC, is the author of The Self-Aware Parent:19 Lessons for Growing with Your Children, which can be purchased on her Web site or Amazon.com.

I'm interested in hearing your take on the question of indulgence. Let's get the conversation started.

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yes and no

By meredith on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

I think I have to agree with Bronwyn. When your child latches onto something, a passion, I say go for it. I personally probably would have rented a harp first. Just knowing the ever-changing interest levels of my boys. BUT, on the other hand...a harp? How cool is that to just have in your house? If my kid got "over" the harp, I'd take lessons myself! When it comes to "indulging" there will be yes days and there will be no days. And only you, knowing your particular kid, can determine which is which.

queen of the world

By Bronwyn on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

I used to always take the el home past the Lyon and Healy factory in Chicago and at night you could look into the windows and see all the harps! I think it's great that Zoe has such a unique interest. I agree with Karen- I don't think supporting a child in an artistic or academic interest to be indulging. Indulging to me seems to be allowing the occasional over-consumption or special treat. Does he really need that ice cream cone? No, but it is nice to indulge in one sometimes. Do we need another Matchbox car or Pokemon card in the house? No, but getting a new one once in a while is a nice indulgence. Besides- the harp has a great future! Just think of all the extra jobs Zoe can pick up playing at weddings when she gets older!

Kids

By Kim on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

I look at a lot of my friends' kids and I feel like they have SO much.....and I look at mine, and I know and realize that we say no....a lot. However, it was brought to my attention just this weekend that a family member of mine thought/thinks my kids are spoiled because they wanted to play with their Hanukkah toys right away Saturday night. I didn't agree with them saying that. But, I guess from the outside looking inside maybe they do "have a lot"....... But, I want to give them as much as I can. Within reason. My kids unfortunately get to hear the word no....probably more often than they would like to....but I also like to do things for them without prompting and of course do give in. We just purchased a DSI for my 6 1/2 year old. He can play with it 30 minutes a day...and if I see it getting to be a problem/battle...I will take it away. Limits are important. We have always been that way about TV....so of course my kids LOVE TV. It's "special" and they only are allowed 30 minutes a day. I feel like indulging your kids with things like a harp aren't really "indulgent" if there's a legitimate want. Your daughter really, really seemed to have her heart set on on it and it's special and appreciated. Just like we spend money on Star Wars for my son....Or dress up clothes for my daughter. I think it's okay to do things like this....as long as you do say no to other things and you do set limits (not with the harp necessarily). There are some parents that just don't say no....and that sends a certain kind of message.

Bunny Busters

By Walter B. on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

"Ok. I can't take the whining anymore, I give in!" These are the sentiments that all parents feel from time to time. Over two years ago, my oldest daughter thought that it would be the greatest thing in the world to have a bunny rabbit. She lobbied long and hard. The more I said "No" the more she creative she got! It became a little game for us along the way. I told her that taking care of a bunny would be a lot of work and she promised up and down that she could handle it. I told her that the a bunny would cost more than we should spend. She proceeded to find one at The Children's Farm for a $25 donation. She priced the accessories, food and supplies. We negotiated back and forth. After several months, I ran out of hurdles. It was waterloo. The showdown at our family OK Corral ended with a trip to the farm and the pet store and a houseful of excited children. Two years later, all the younger kids have renounced all responsibility for Buster the Bunny, except our oldest daughter. She still needs a reminder to feed Buster and clean the cage every so often, but she has kept her promise and learned that there is a price to pay for a "free" bunny. To our family, Buster the Bunny represents indulgence, life lessons, responsibility and soft, floppy ears!

Indulging kids

By Karen Skinner on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

I never thought of it as "indulging" when I provided my kids with what they needed to pursue their interests. I guess, depending on the interests, it certainly can be an indulgence. As long as whatever they wanted was a good fit with our family culture, affordable and not dangerous I was mostly happy to do it. When my son was a little guy, in the very early 80's, he would sit at the table with the yellow pages looking up toy and hobby shops and calling them to see what latest and greatest Star Wars figures they had. He would greet me when I returned home from work with the news of where we could find Boba Fett or Yoda and that it was only $3.99. Could we go now, right now? I didn't always indulge him, but I sure found it industrious of him, and twenty five years later, love to remember his enthusiasm. My daughter mostly just wanted me - my time, my attention. I couldn't always "indulge" her but did the best I could. I love to watch her with her young boys, parceling out every bit of attention she can, remembering what she needed when she was their age.

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